Talk:Grand Unified Weapons Armor and Spell Table

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[edit] GUWAST Talk

I thought bows did piercing damage, but I've never used or been shot by them, so I'm not positive. -Sauth 20:59, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

That was my mistake. It does indeed do Piercing. --Liche 22:45, 14 April 2006 (CDT)

Would it be worthwhile adding a line for Boxing (or Fist(Boxing)) for the 4-damage fist attack? --Fred Dullard 12:27, 25 April 2006 (CDT)

I need to think about that. I was wondering about that sort of stuff earlier, and the only thing I'm wondering is, if I add that, should I add lines for all the different attacks (Lesser Smite, Greater Smite, Enhanced, etc) as well? What do you think? --Liche 12:42, 25 April 2006 (CDT)
It is a difficulty. It might well be worth having the damage-buffs in the table somewhere. Boxing is an odd one because it is Fist-only. Strong/Elite/Infinite Attack are similar but apply to all weapons. --Fred Dullard 16:32, 25 April 2006 (CDT)
Can I request that you place a table for charged attacks on the GUWAST, Focused Attack, Hellfire, Lesser/Greater Smite, etc.?--Kibbs 10:30, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

Added the GUWAST link to armor, spell and weapon category pages --WiredDeath 09:14, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

  • Also added it to all individual spell pages upto Chilling Touch, feel free to carry on --WiredDeath 19:40, 13 June 2006 (CDT)
Might we want to separate the GUWAST into tables for their relevant categories? It's a bit much for a single page; useful for certain areas, but perhaps not for individual sections such as spells and armor. IE we can separate the armor section of the GUWAST into...the Grand Unified Armor and Weapons Table; the same for spells, and so on. --Chriswizard 19:43, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

Are the damage values for the AoE spells right? The Wiki has different values for Ice Storm, Fire Storm, Thunder Storm and Death Cloud. For example, the Wiki says 10 per target for Fire storm but this table says 5. Which is right? Dangermouse 20:59, 27 June 2006 (CDT)

Would you mind if GUWAST was moved to its own page? GUWAST for example? Or Grand Unified Weapons Armor and Spell Table. --Brizth 10:45, 21 July 2006 (CDT)

I second this. I'd like to see this as a "real" page.--Jorm 01:55, 21 November 2006 (CST)
So let it be written, so let it be done! GUWAST, I set you free! Go now, and take your place among your brothers and sisters of the Wiki. --Liche 10:25, 21 November 2006 (CST)
And it has been done, as you have probably noticed if you are reading this page. --Brizth T A 14:24, 21 November 2006 (CST)
  • Mistake on Exoskeletal Armor

It is currently listed on this page as 10 soak versus Electrical, and no soak versus Acid. This should be reversed, as Exoskeletal Armor is listed as having 10 soak vs. Acid in the Changelog/Pending Changes area, with no change to Electrical Soak (0) - this information is also on the Exoskeletal Armor entry. --BobGeneric 20:17, 14 November 2006 (CST)

The death sword is listed as doing 8 (Unholy). On the Magical Weapons page, it says 11 (Death). I haven't actually seen one, so I won't change the table, but the latter amount seems more reasonable to me.--Francois Martineau 17:49, 10 March 2007 (CST)

Er... Meant to say the latter type. As in it should do Death damage like the name implies. Eight actually does sound like pretty a reasonable number.--Francois Martineau 22:44, 30 March 2007 (CDT)
Kibbs apparently fixed this without mentioning it. Those things hit hard! --Francois Martineau 17:55, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
I don't apparently fix anything. I fix them. Those are the proper stats. Trust me. --Kibbs 07:10, 10 April 2007 (CDT)
Very well. Kibbs deserves free booze for heroic thing fixing.--Francois Martineau 18:43, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

I just added the Box Cutter since it was missing. Also, this is an off thought, but maybe we should add links to all of the skill abilities, making them similiar to the spells? -Singularquartet 19:01, 11 March 2007 (CDT)

Butcher's Knife is listed under both Improvised and Knives and Daggers. I don't actually consider that a problem, but the damage codes listed are different: I'm guessing that at least one of them is wrong.--Francois Martineau 18:43, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

I suppose I probably should have just fixed this myself. It's not like I can't find a safe full of butcher's knives. The interface says it does 3. I'll assume the damage type on the table is correct, and call it a Knife.--Francois Martineau 19:30, 28 August 2007 (CDT)

I was wondering- What would be the best combination of armors to wear? It's a kind've stupid question (I could figure it out myself) but I'm too lazy. >_<--Dalmund 10:06, 1 June 2008 (CDT)

[edit] Missing Weapons/Damage sources

  • Cutlass
  • Pack of Ciggarettes (1 damage, untyped?)
  • Pets : Zombies, Tentacles, Skeletons, Ghouls, Elementals (4 types)
  • Large thrown/melee items (telephone poles, file cabinets, cars, etc)

--Timid Dan 08:40, 13 June 2006 (CDT)

  • SMG

Add them in, then. Liche has graciously allowed users to edit and add to the GUWAST anything deemed of value to the experiment. Also Dinobobicus, please sign your edits.--Kibbs 14:43, 16 August 2006 (CDT)


  • Fire Rain

Adding it now. :) - Caz 02:20, 13 September 2006 (CDT)

  • Fragmentation Grenade --Orbis3

In fact, all of the new Grenades need to be added, and I believe will need a new category.

  • Sub-Machine Gun

Not entirely sure what to put. It does normal ballistic damage but it also does AoE. --Velkrin 23:54, 6 November 2006 (CST)

  • Cloak of Lightning says This ability grants the character two new special attacks: a ranged lightning bolt attack and an area-of-effect static burst attack. Unless I missed them, neither is on the table.--Francois Martineau 15:20, 15 March 2007 (CDT)
    • Added Lightning bolt and Static Burst, as well as the armor capabilities of the advanced cloaks. StarStorm 04:49, 17 March 2007 (CDT)

[edit] Spell Table

I started making this as a possible appendix to the GUWAST, but then realized as I started that what I'd thought of for an overall usefulness calculation didn't seem to work correctly for auto-hit spells. I tested a ranged spell and that seemed about right, but not on the autohit ones. Can I get some advice on this?--Skaramuche 13:46, 16 December 2006 (CST)

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